tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post1776879680360935048..comments2023-10-05T12:43:59.413-04:00Comments on Honor's Code: Helping handsHonors Codehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-27025691350764716662007-07-31T15:26:00.000-04:002007-07-31T15:26:00.000-04:00I too have group quests sitting in my log waiting ...I too have group quests sitting in my log waiting to be done. I know what it feels like to ask for help and get no reply. I also know how bad it feels to ask in guild for help when it's obvious everyone else has plans already (the uncomfortable silence).<BR/><BR/>That's why the forums are becoming more and more pivotal to guild communications. You don't need to feel bad make a post "LFG for 5 man quest in SMV". Look at DarkDescent's post. Sometimes you don't get a lot of response but you just gotta try again - especially if you choose a bad night or too early/late of a start time for most other people. This is something people need to realize.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what to do about our healer situation. We did recruit a few healers but I don't know what's going on with them. It's almost getting to the point where some of us could get alts to L70 and gear them up before we can recruit a few more consistently played and geared healers.Origamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04951925529938051036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-12221545119016409532007-07-31T14:20:00.000-04:002007-07-31T14:20:00.000-04:00Bacon, (and anybody else for that matter), you eve...Bacon, (and anybody else for that matter), you ever need a group for anything, just say the word. I'd be more than happy to help you out.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-64214499688440424002007-07-31T14:14:00.000-04:002007-07-31T14:14:00.000-04:00Robella, I don't mind helping people if they have ...Robella, <BR/>I don't mind helping people if they have put in a little time to see what it is that they need. And it sounds like you have done that. Please don't hesitate to ask to run an instance in guild chat or ask for help on a group quest, chances are most of us need to do some of those as well. I have some sitting in my quest log for about 3 months now. I've just been waiting to get some people together to do them.Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14944722986881594862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-79795691121259807722007-07-31T13:55:00.000-04:002007-07-31T13:55:00.000-04:00Woot! I can actually read something related to th...Woot! I can actually read something related to the guild while at work! My company blocks me from viewing the Heroes' forums so it is hard for me to keep up with things :-(<BR/><BR/>I want to once again thank you and everyone else who helped Robella last night with the final stages of that LONG quest chain. <BR/><BR/>Overall, I agree with your post. I believe most people in the guild want to progess through the end-game but at their own pace. There is a lot to do in the game and having variety makes the game more fun, imo. Running the same instance over and over again would take the fun out of playing for me. Don't get me wrong, I would like to try out Kara one day but I am in no hurry.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Ferth's Guild Improvement week, I think it is a great idea. I don't know about everyone else, but I rarely ask for help because I don't want to bother people who are doing their own thing. Most of the guild has already completed the quests that I have remaining so I kind of feel bad asking for help (I finished all the solo quests I could find in the Outlands and only have group quests left to do). By Ferth making this a Guild Improvement week, I felt more comfortable in asking for help. <BR/><BR/>As a side note, I am always happy to hear other peoples' suggestions about my gear and on my play style (trust me, I won't be offended). Since I mainly have soloed with Robella, my group skills are a bit lacking. I do spend time researching gear and tactics for my rogue but I am not nearly as well versed in all the game mechanics as some of you. So if I am ever in a group with any of you, feel free to offer any pointers!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03577296405079537630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-89694046368809904272007-07-31T12:16:00.000-04:002007-07-31T12:16:00.000-04:00Points well made Origami. And I am on page with bo...Points well made Origami. And I am on page with both of you. A good example is that I spent 45+ minutes last week talking to our new druid, Rhamza. He linked me all sorts of gear and asked me what was better for healing. He had bought alot of gear (Wild Draenic set and stuff) that has alot of +healing/spell damage and some other things. I finally told him about my post on the forums and that most good healing drops come from instances. <BR/>After we got done talking about healing gear, he asked me alot of questions about specs (he has put all his points into resto). He finished with asking me about the possibility of him rolling on feral/DPS drops. I asked him why he wanted to. He replied that the only way he could get into Heroes with Schmed was to go resto, but he still wants to do feral combat. So I think alot of what we talked about became a mute point. <BR/>Additionally, I see only a few "veterans" helping these people, while others go on with their own business. I have ran SV and BM so many times to help people get keyed or drops that it's become as Regolas says, "running on autopilot" for those instances. If you have these same veterans constantly do things like this for people, you'll burn them out.<BR/>Lastly, we are helping some people when we need to be locating some more healers. All this improvement is doing is increasing the number of DPS people that will have to sit on Kara runs. Saturday night we were missing 2 healing specced priests and then Sevenn and I showed up late. I doubt our kara progression will get much further until we get more healing classes.Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14944722986881594862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-14339969538400175772007-07-31T10:25:00.000-04:002007-07-31T10:25:00.000-04:00Honors, you're not alone. I understand what Ferth...Honors, you're not alone. I understand what Ferth is trying to accomplish (I've been harrassing him that the guild wasn't helping the undergeared enough) but his execution is somewhat off.<BR/>When he first talked about Guild Improvement Week I mentioned that we can only help people who asked for help. His response was that it was untrue because some people don't know that they need help and that he's looked up people's armory and then approached them and offered help with success.<BR/>That's fine on an individual basis and if you have the interest. However, when you throw out a whole guild event centered around this and then highlight people as "Needing Help", they'll likely get intimidated.<BR/>And besides, asking guild members to go find people and look at their gear and then run them through instances or quests to get them better gear, all when they don't even ask for it feels very much like hunting someone down, clubbing them on the head and dragging them to NY City so that you can dress them in better clothes.<BR/><BR/>We aren't here to handhold people and certainly not force them into gearing the way we think. What if someone doesn't want to run kara? What if levelling to 70 is the only accomplishment they care about and then they're just going to roll an alt and level that one up? This should certainly be about helping people who ask for it and setting aside time for the like of Robella or Cetra is great. But so far, we've had 3 people ask for help and 1 person (who was new) that was identified as needing help. I don't know what we can or should do about the others.Origamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04951925529938051036noreply@blogger.com