tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post5177109163279098861..comments2023-10-05T12:43:59.413-04:00Comments on Honor's Code: Tank as you Level Up, Part 1 Sub 40Honors Codehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-14428141576471030672010-01-23T16:00:33.367-05:002010-01-23T16:00:33.367-05:00Great question. Basically I forgot about Kings. I&...Great question. Basically I forgot about Kings. I've changed the post to show Kings for your Blessing. Nice catch.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-31631084342701249362010-01-23T14:15:35.310-05:002010-01-23T14:15:35.310-05:00I have to ask, why Blessing of Might over Kings at...I have to ask, why Blessing of Might over Kings at level 20?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-34304934554818360292010-01-19T15:19:15.834-05:002010-01-19T15:19:15.834-05:00Can't thank you enough. I'm going to try o...Can't thank you enough. I'm going to try out the spec you recommend on my level 30 pally tank.Alex Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18374588011962325750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-23268900399804668232010-01-19T14:25:05.524-05:002010-01-19T14:25:05.524-05:00@Orvillius,
The heirloom wearing rogues are simil...@Orvillius,<br /><br />The heirloom wearing rogues are similar to the epic'ed out DPS that fresh Level 80 tank has to deal with. <br /><br />HoP (Hand of Protection) is a wonderful tool here. It stops the Rogue from attacking and keeps them alive.<br /><br />But mainly (and I touch on this briefly when I talk about DKs) when the DPS severely out-gears the tank, its the responsibility of the DPS to either scale back on damage so as to not out threat the tank, or put on some tanking gear, and be the tank.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-7676896634333482702010-01-19T13:46:39.182-05:002010-01-19T13:46:39.182-05:00I certainly haven't seen any DKs yet at 22, th...I certainly haven't seen any DKs yet at 22, though I'm certain level 55 on up will be just delightful once I get my alt there. It's been a number of rogues and mages. I haven't had problems with mages since getting consecration and Seal of Command since I can do AoE damage, but I continue to lose single targets to heirloom wearing rogues.Orvillius@Coilfangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-24164130493383737682010-01-19T13:31:57.500-05:002010-01-19T13:31:57.500-05:00@Orvillius
I can't imagine you're seeing ...@Orvillius<br /><br />I can't imagine you're seeing too many DKs at 22, but I will address DKs in part II.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-90844790279629083532010-01-19T13:15:01.365-05:002010-01-19T13:15:01.365-05:00I was really excited to see this post today, as I&...I was really excited to see this post today, as I've been levelling my ret pally alt (my main is Prot/Holy and I've always wanted to give ret a try) but the wait time for a dungeon at low levels is forever unless you can tank. I like the talent point suggestions and plan on respeccing into them today. <br /> My question concerns the dynamic in the groups you get with the LFG system. The biggest problem I'm encountering is with DPS with heirloom gear racking up so much threat that I can't get a solid aggro hold. I can't imagine that they could have that kind of gear if they aren't somewhat experienced with their main, but I've yet to find one who's willing to slow things down to the pace that my limited tanking toolbox can handle, and unlike in lvl 80 instances, their heirloom gear often makes them strong enough to handle the mobs even if I back off. Am I wrong to be irritated by this? Should I just accept that they are essentially a second tank and not worry if they pull aggro? Otherwise what tactics do you suggest? (For reference purposes my alt is presently a lvl 22 blood elf pally, specc'ed as you've suggested except I currently have benediction instead of deflection as my first five points)Orvillius@Coilfangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-26337522507716600752010-01-18T20:56:16.078-05:002010-01-18T20:56:16.078-05:00@Glenn,
I don't know the other classes well e...@Glenn,<br /><br />I don't know the other classes well enough to give any advice on talents and rotations as you level up. I know Paladins, and that's why the article deals with them almost exclusively. <br /><br />I think a post along the lines 'So you want to be a Tank' with advice for any Tank regardless of class or level would be a good addition to the series. I'll see what I can come up with. Thanks for hte suggestion.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-15706787372153551512010-01-18T19:25:35.340-05:002010-01-18T19:25:35.340-05:00Great concept for a series and one I much need in ...Great concept for a series and one I much need in that I'm enjoying leveling several tanks now that dungeon finder makes is possible. But therein lies the problem as well: You start out as if you are going to address all tanking classes but quickly switch to talking about only paladins. Might I suggest you broaden the topic back out even in the most general of terms? Otherwise, I'll be interested for my lvl48 pally, but be left out in the cold for my lvl33 warrior and lvl28 druid.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09558851775171179900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-8308939751787563742010-01-18T16:56:46.357-05:002010-01-18T16:56:46.357-05:00The experience is fresh in my mind.
I started l...The experience is fresh in my mind. <br /><br />I started leveling a warrior just before xmas. This is my 3rd tank, I tanked on my feral all through BC (KZ thru to BT) ans switched to my abandoned pally in the summer of '08 and raid with that char in wrath.<br /><br />I have to be honest here, I leveled as arms then fury up to Outland, due to the awesome heirloom items and the bonus xp and didn't do any instancing in vanilla zones.<br /><br />As soon as I hit Outland I dual speced into prot and haven't looked back though. I stayed until 70 there doing a lot of instances and 2 zones. I wanted to get my cobalt set before heading to Northrend. Currently @ 73 and loving it. It's a big change from tankadin and feral. A lot of "toys" to play with. <br /><br />Aside the annoying gogoer and the dk that DGs my targets away from me, I haven't had that much trouble with threat tbh. Be it my previous experience and the fact that I know how and what to gear for, or just the fact that tank threat is a non issue anymore, I don't know.<br /><br />I haven't used anything else aside recount and omen. After the first pull or two, I'll check who is second in threat and drop a vigilance on them, that's about it.<br /><br />Cheers.leivadithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05916969720647757870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-73071238808904009772010-01-18T14:56:09.409-05:002010-01-18T14:56:09.409-05:00I personally use aloft - tiny plates wasn't to...I personally use aloft - tiny plates wasn't to my liking, due to the lack of decent options and customisation, whereas aloft can be made to look however you want - with extra bells and whistles - all through the menus.<br />Tiny plates requires you do do lua hardcoding for the same thing.<br /><br />The only thing I see that tiny plates has over aloft is that tiny plates can scale the nameplate based on things like elite, rare and boss status.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00858713206576834813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-74028158088262208442010-01-18T14:16:22.793-05:002010-01-18T14:16:22.793-05:00Great guide! I enjoyed the little dig at the FTC t...Great guide! I enjoyed the little dig at the FTC there, haha.Rhidachhttp://rhida.chnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-85700585078643357242010-01-18T13:29:22.376-05:002010-01-18T13:29:22.376-05:00I tried TidyPlates but I'm not sure I'm us...I tried TidyPlates but I'm not sure I'm using it right. I don't notice much difference.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-88386224777711026692010-01-18T13:28:55.618-05:002010-01-18T13:28:55.618-05:00I have little patience for "gogogogers."...I have little patience for "gogogogers." They receive a warning, and if they continue, I'll tell them to stop or they will be kicked. If the group doesn't vote to kick, I'll tell them they can have a different tank. Ques for DPS are much longer than for tanks. Take advantage of that.Honors Codehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603644804340531952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-73625674946434376242010-01-18T12:38:58.220-05:002010-01-18T12:38:58.220-05:00Thanks for this. :) I've been levelling my l...Thanks for this. :) I've been levelling my little pally as a tank purely through LFG, and really enjoying it. Tho I've gone prot, there was lots of helpful stuff here for me.<br /><br />Maybe I've been lucky, but I had my first negative experience last night. SM-GY - I was chain pulling, but it wasn't enough for 1 dps that kept typing "gogogo". This completely through me off. I tried to go faster, which meant mobs roaming free and me breaking LOS with the healer repeatedly. I dropped group shortly after.<br /><br />How do you handle the "gogogo"ers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3190673057769546823.post-34049495072226151592010-01-18T11:51:12.066-05:002010-01-18T11:51:12.066-05:00In regards to the threat tracking, I'd recomme...In regards to the threat tracking, I'd recommend getting something like TinyPlates with Threat Plates, or Aloft with nameplate glow active.<br />This adds a glow to nameplates so you can tell if you're losing threat on a mob you're not targetting. It's based on the internal values that WoW uses.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00858713206576834813noreply@blogger.com