Monday, December 15, 2008

Defense Versus Dodge: The Diminishing Returns Battle Royale

Those luminaries over at Maintankadin have done it again. I found this thread discussing diminishing returns and how to figure out when defense is superior to dodge. I suggest you read the entire thread but let me try to give you the cliff notes version of the conclusions.

First of all, Defense is always better if you haven’t reached the Block Cap, the old Uncrushable of 102.4%. Defense is the most efficient way to reach the Block Cap.

Once you have hit the Block Cap, to get the best avoidance, and taking into account diminishing returns, you should keep your dodge rating roughly equal to your defense rating.

We can also conclude from this that after Block Cap, Defense gemming is generally going to be a poor choice.

This is something you considered AFTER you are uncrittable. Remember your first goal must be the Crit Cap.


Fapman said...

Have you considered parry in that equation? I can imagine that parry without diminishing returns provides more avoidance than dodge with DR. I haven't done any math yet, but I just wanted to bring this up.

It could be my imagination, but i believe there is a lot more gear with parry these days (meant for DK tanks), so you might be able to boost your pure avoidance with parry, gaining also a small advantage from the swing timer reset (especially with a slow weapon)

Honors Code said...

In the thread the author mentions that the first few points of parry you get when your parry is much lower than your dodge give you a good return but it quickly levels out and gives less than dodge.

Gowron said...

The consensus on maintankadin seems that you should actually aim 2% higher then 102.4%. This is because the stats that are shown ingame considering miss, are before DR.

I noticed that from raidbuffs you get around 1% avoidance, so I am aiming for 103.5% avoidance.

1. Get Uncrittable
2. Use defense/blockrating to get block-capped.
3. Bring dodgerating to around the same level as defense (around 700) (or 2/3 so around 550 is an other statement)
4. Keep parryrating at around 200.

BamaTank Inc. said...

Would you mind linking the forum thread? I'd like to read that.

So are you saying that after hitting 540, you keep stacking defense to get to 102.4% avoidance? ie: get like 650 defense?

Honors Code said...

that was the original thread.

You don't want to use JUST defense to get to 102.4% (that would be very hard). It's just that point for point, defense will get you to the goal faster than dodge.