Enjoy LFD Now
The new LFD (Looking For Dungeon) System is great. The developers did an excellent job with the design of the systems. There are plenty of rewards for people at all levels and all Tiers of Level 80 from the guy who just dinged all the way up to the guy who was farming Heroic Anub’arak the night before the Patch.
Right now, you have an abundance of T9 raiders carrying people in random LFG groups. I’ve done this several times myself. I’ll be in a group where I’m first on DPS, Damage Done, and Damage Taken. If I would have used Judgment of Light, I might have been first in Healing Done as well. I’ve had the same thing happen on my Hunter where I’m the only DPS in the group over 3k.
Enjoy it now, and if you are a lowered geared toon, get all the dungeons run as fast as you can, because this isn’t going to last.
The Tier 9 Raiders are in the LFG for one reason, Emblems of Frost. I typically only run the Random Heroic for the two Emblems of Frost it provides. I don’t need Triumphs; I’m swimming in the bloody things. In a few weeks, my Hunter alt won’t need them either.
What you have to realize is that right now, all the T9 Raiders need Emblems of Frost. You can’t buy your 264 T9 with a Token until you have the 251 from Emblems of Frost. The Daily Random provides more Emblems (14) over a week than all of the current Bosses open in Ice Crown (8). In addition, because Tier 9 Raiders are clearing the first wing so quickly, they have down time during the week and they are running Random Heroics.
But in a few weeks, Ice Crown is going to have plenty of Bosses open. A new Wing will open shortly after New Year, then another just a couple of weeks after that. Tier 9 Raiders, and especially those lovely Tier 9 Tanks with 40k plus unbuffed Hit Points are going to be spending more time raiding and less time in LFD. And even when they aren’t raiding, they will be getting to the point where they don’t need Emblems of Frost nearly as much as they do now.
The Developers have already acknowledged the system is reliant on the number of Tanks queuing up. As more Bosses in Ice Crown open up and Raiders buy what they need with Frost Emblems, the number of people and the number of tanks available will dwindle. Those 10 and 15 minute wait times could become 20 to 30 minutes. And when you finally do get a group, it might be sorely lacking in T9 Raiders able to carry an entire heroic on their shoulders.
Comments
In most cases i am the top dps as you, most damage taken and smash through everything. I dont mind helping out, but the tank should not be kicking your ass on the dps charts.
None of the pug dps broke 1.5k overall, and the mage managed an astonishing 600 dps on boss fights (which I wouldn't have believed if my friend hadn't pointed it out to me). It was the worst pug dps I'd seen since the new Dungeon Finder system went in.
I just go one heroic run each night on my druid and my paladin and then I'm done. Both have tanking specs so it's easy to get a group, but once I no longer need the frost emblems I'm not going to be showing up anymore.
And...I don't really mind putting forth effort. :-)
The mods apparently compensate somewhat if everyone's physically close to one another, but ranged damage and heals especially will be misrepresented much of the time.
But concerning your meta-point, I'm right there with you. I've grabbed my Trial trophies and in the process of blasting my way through PUGs to get my pug dog, I've upgraded my remaining T9 armor and now only do the daily random on my main for my frost badges.
Some pugs are terrible as well, mainly having bad dps. I did get a group once though (and only once so far!) where none of the dps were below 6k and that was awesome =)
In fact, one of the best pugs I've had so far people were all ~2k dps, and I was tanking on my undergeared warrior. It went smoothly and I didn't have some t9 geared asshat pulling aggro just so he could show he can do 6k dps in Utgarde Pinnacle.
Whilst I can agree there might be a slightly longer wait once the newness wears off, I also can hope that the 'uber leet dps' heads off with those same tanks and allow people to enjoy heroics without 'omg this must be over in 15mins or I'm leaving' (yes, had this happen).
Given that anyone can get basic T9, and that there are plenty of people out there who are skilled and cannot raid, I won't cry too much when I stop being 'carried' by T9 raiders...
/hug
That being said, I have still ended up in groups where I topped the damage charts and healing charts. I am down to running only one or two random heroics a day (unless a guildie needs some help).
At this point I have not been running my Lock or Hunter with any random. Instead I save them for guild runs. I just cannot handle the badness that is LFD/LFG currently.
Sure we may outgear some and could carry a group if needed, but honestly these are heroics for people who have item level 187 - 200, what do you expect?
If anything, shouldn't we try to help these people and by help, I mean not make them feel like a useless piece of dung? Sorry, but this sounded more like an arragont post than anything else.
I gurantee that if all the current overgeared tanks stopped running heroics that people would still be running them the same old way (aka form a group and hit trade and lfg channel advertising the need for a tank or healer).
Sorry about that.
Most of the tanks have been fine apart from the odd one who chain pulls when I'm on 0 mana.
Meanwhile my 29k health DK tank gets complaints when joining heroics for not having enought health. I used to heal these in blues with a tank with about 24k and DPS without any epics. The point of heroics is to gear up! The community has to take some responsbility for gearing up new tanks (and healers) or the queues will just get worse. The 5 mins longer you spend clearing the heroic will be 5 mins less you spend in Dalaran queueing next week.
My boots alone will take 5 primordial to make and another for the pattern. That's a total of a 138 frost emblems, not to mention the other 30 emblems I need for the new druid idol and then 50 for the cloak. If anything I'll be running the random for a long time because I'm too cheap to fork over thousands of gold for primordial saronite.
Prior to the LFG tool, I'd get some guildies and 3/4 man the daily. We saw no reason to grab a pugger, the risk/reward just wasn't there. Frankly, if we could queue for random instances with 4, we probably would.
I also run five mans on my fresh green machine blood dk and beat most of my raid. The problem with the system is there is no accountability for performance. Anyone in full epics (of any item level) can pull 3k dps easily, yet these full t9 people rarely do.
Finally, I have A LOT of gear to get, but even so, I will only run one a day, as any more give me nothig of value. Emblems of triumph are worthless to me, I had 200+ before the patch. Now while I completely understand I am the vast minority when it comes to gear level, people are fast approaching my level with all the 264 tanking gear available.